Show Notes
Managing data is hard. Drowning in it is expensive.
Joe Perkins (COO) and Brent Hillabrand (President and CEO) sit down with Justin Benson (VP of Intralogistics Solutions) and Danny Saleeba (CFO) to unpack why leaders hoard metrics as organizations grow, how data can create a false narrative, and where dashboards give a false sense of control. You’ll hear how “rearview mirror” reporting can derail real-time judgment, why teams chase perfect data and stall momentum, and how to decide which metrics actually matter so you can move faster with more confidence.
What you’ll learn:
• Why leaders hoard metrics as teams scale and how it impacts trust
• The difference between visibility and overload, and where dashboards cross the line
• How reports can replace the conversations leaders should be having
• When data obscures judgment instead of sharpening it
• Why dashboards can create false confidence even when “everything is green”
• How to spot manipulated metrics and misleading storytelling in reporting
• Which decisions truly need data and which require context, values, and common sense
• The real cost of waiting for perfect data in fast-moving environments
• When it is necessary to eliminate metrics, reports, and “needless” data
• How to build alignment on what matters so data actually drives action
Don’t risk decision paralysis, slow execution, and frustrated teams because your organization is drowning in dashboards and conflicting reports. Learn how to simplify your metrics, focus on what actually matters, and make faster decisions with clearer confidence.
Key Moments:
1:29 Why Leaders Hoard Metrics
6:19 Can Data Obscure Judgment?
10:56 When Does Data Drive Decisions?
13:24 Dashboards & False Confidence
19:14 The Cost of Waiting for Perfect Data
22:37 When to Eliminate Metrics
28:34 Data Overload & The 97% Stat
36:53 Agree or Disagree
Transcript
Most organizations today don’t have a data problem, they have a decision-making problem.
We’ve built systems, dashboards, and reports that give us more visibility than ever before. But somewhere along the way, that visibility has turned into overload.
In this episode of Handled It, the team digs into a critical question:
Are you actually managing your data… or are you drowning in it?
Because the difference between the two directly impacts how fast and how well you operate.
When Data Replaces Conversations
“The conversations that need to be had are being replaced by reports…”
One of the biggest shifts happening inside organizations is the move from conversation to confirmation.
Instead of sitting down with a team member to understand what’s happening, leaders are opening a report. Instead of asking questions, they’re referencing numbers.
On the surface, that feels efficient. But in reality, it creates a gap.
Data might tell you what is happening but it rarely tells you:
• Why it’s happening• What changed
• What someone is experiencing on the ground
And when those conversations disappear, so does clarity.
Why Leaders Start to Rely Too Heavily on Data
“It’s a control factor… it makes them more safe.”
As leaders grow in their roles, they naturally become more removed from the day-to-day work. They’re no longer in the weeds they’re looking at the business from a higher level.
That’s where data becomes appealing.
It offers:
• A sense of control
• A way to stay informed
• A way to prove value in decision-making
But over time, that reliance can turn into dependence.
Instead of using data as a tool, it becomes a crutch especially when leaders feel disconnected from the actual work being done.
The Disconnect Between Data and Reality
“The reports… are the retrospect of what’s occurred already.”
Here’s the reality: most data is lagging.
It reflects what already happened not what’s happening now.
That creates a dangerous gap:
• Leaders are making decisions in real-time• Based on information from the past
Without context, those decisions can miss the mark.
The strongest operators understand that data is just one input.
They pair it with observation, conversation, and firsthand insight.
When Data Starts Driving the Wrong Decisions
“We get one piece of the data… and then we jump to make a decision.”
Data doesn’t just inform decisions, it can distort them.
When leaders:
• Focus on a single metric
• React to a short-term trend
• Skip understanding the full picture
They risk solving the wrong problem.
This is where organizations start to feel reactive instead of intentional.
Instead of asking, “What’s really happening?”
They ask, “What does this number mean?” and move too quickly from there.
The Problem with Dashboards
“It unintentionally provides a false narrative.”
Dashboards are meant to simplify complexity.
But if they’re not built or used correctly, they can do the opposite.
They can:
• Highlight the wrong metrics
• Mask underlying issues
• Create a false sense of success
When everything is green, it’s easy to assume everything is working.
But without digging deeper, you may never realize:
• A process has changed• A team found a workaround
• A short-term gain is creating long-term risk
Data Can Be Shaped to Tell a Story
“You can manipulate the data to show what you want it to.”
This isn’t always intentional but it happens.
The way data is presented matters:
• What metrics are included
• How they’re grouped
• What timeframe is shown
All of it influences the story being told.
That’s why strong organizations don’t just ask for data they ask:
“Is this the right data, and are we interpreting it correctly?”
Not Every Decision Should Be Data-Driven
“You’re empowered to make that decision… that doesn’t require data.”
There’s a growing tendency to validate everything with data even when it’s unnecessary.
But some decisions are better made through:
• Experience
• Context
• Leadership judgment
Think about:
• A customer issue happening in real time
• A team member struggling
• A safety concern
In those moments, waiting for data doesn’t improve the decision it delays it.
The Cost of Waiting Too Long
“The cost… impacts our customer… our associate… their engagement… their happiness.”
When decisions slow down, everything else follows.
Teams feel it first:
• They’re waiting on direction
• They’re blocked from moving forward
• They lose confidence in leadership
Customers feel it next:
• Delays in response
• Slower service
• Less trust
And over time, that delay becomes a competitive disadvantage.
When Metrics Start Working Against You
“When metrics contradict each other… it paralyzes your decision making.”
More metrics don’t equal better outcomes.
In fact, too many metrics can:
• Create confusion
• Pull teams in different directions
• Slow down progress
If one metric says “optimize cost” and another says “maximize speed,” teams are left trying to balance competing priorities without clarity.
The best organizations simplify:
• Fewer metrics• Clear alignment
• Shared understanding of what matters most
The Data Paradox
“97% want more data… but only 28% trust it.”
This stat highlights a major issue.
Leaders want more information but they don’t feel confident using what they already have.
So what happens?
They:
• Ask for more reports
• Dig deeper into dashboards
• Spend more time analyzing
But not necessarily more time deciding.
Analysis Paralysis Is Slowing Teams Down
“They keep digging until they get the answer they want.”
At some point, data becomes a delay tactic.
Instead of helping leaders move forward, it gives them a reason to pause:
• “Let me check one more thing”
• “I need one more report”
• “I want to validate this first”
That hesitation adds up and over time, it becomes a pattern.
What Actually Drives Better Decisions
“You’ve got to trust in the gut… but the data’s got to back it up.”
The best operators don’t choose between data and intuition they use both.
They:
• Look at the data• Understand the context
• Talk to their teams
• Move quickly
• They don’t wait for perfect clarity.
• They move with informed confidence.
The Bottom Line
“Data… helps me figure things out… but it can’t paralyze the organization.”
Data should:
• Support decisions
• Provide direction
• Increase confidence
But if it’s slowing you down, overwhelming your team, or replacing real understanding, it’s no longer helping.